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The 2012 elections have nothing to do with social issues it's all about the economy.
My next guest would disagree with that.
-- -- is the -- all the man in the middle He joins me now live from DC all right -- I'm gonna pick a fight with you because I think -- flat out wrong.
That social issues are extremely important in this election.
And that you can't really fix the economy until you fixed the social problems which are affecting our economy.
I take the exact opposite point of view I say that it's taxes it's business it's the economy it's money.
That's the most important issue in this forthcoming election make your case on your side of the -- Well Stuart I do believe in fact that the economy is very important.
But I believe that -- mentally.
Social and economic issues go together they always have an American politics.
It will be true in 2012 and I predict it will be true.
And for every presidential election in America after -- Well on -- the great Michael Novak has said we very religious republic and it's not to say that the economy your taxes or regulation.
Issues are not -- not unimportant of course they are but as I say in my book the man in the middle.
Which is subtitled faith and politics in the George W.
These have always gone together and as recently.
Is the last few days we already see this popping up.
On the -- on the presidential side on the Republican.
Side of the of the of the -- Look sure that Kim Jong Hwan is fix the economy -- still restore prosperity in America actually job want.
And you don't do you know restore the economy you don't restore prosperity.
By talking about abortion and gay rights all even family issues I mean that's a secondary issue that's down the road is -- right Stuart.
On that we we we we fundamentally disagree.
I would argue is they say that economic and social issues are directly related if you want -- strong economy.
I've shown me a nation.
Where you have very strong on broken families -- -- an economy.
I'll which is faltering and broken and I'll show you a country with faltering and broken families there is a measurable.
A social and moral -- -- gonna -- I'm in American on the last.
-- second we have chair ever expanding prosperity and a vibrant economy in America in the -- lead generation leading up to the year 2007.
It was vibrant it was expanding.
Prosperity was on the rise and precisely during that time it was families that were falling a pot it was on.
And -- act do it -- Macy's store actually we have seen.
A number of very key social indicators that that think a in that that indicate that that is not expressly the case.
On we we have actually seen an undercurrent.
Of the sorts of things that lead to -- weakening confidence in a country locker like ours and let me just say.
I am by nature categorically an optimist and I do believe that America's best days are ahead as I say in the book the very last chapter.
I called the coming American Renaissance I I believe very strongly.
Odd that there are social and economic strands which are actually coming back together and what what do I mean since -- its hold -- to I have to say.
Larry I'm a Democrat Tim is because I believe the government has a fundamental role to strengthen families to work to provide employment to.
Poor people to stimulate the economy for those where there is called a crumbling structure right go back to the morning -- report 1965.
Right then right now.
And why don't we need big government to do that.
-- Actually I'm glad you raised the morning and report because people forget that when He wrote that study in 1965.
In America among African Americans we had a 25%.
Out of wedlock birth rate.
Today in America that number among African Americans is above 70%.
Among Hispanic Americans it's about 50%.
And of among nonhispanic white Americans it's above 25%.
So actually we are going in the wrong direction and -- charge -- an -- -- -- -- -- -- and -- Pat -- famously said.
That -- 25%.
Out of wedlock birth rate was a crisis and if you look at the numbers now.
You know I'm near less than fifty years later those numbers are going in the wrong direction alright you know they also all the the man in the middle a new book.
And I shall -- it Tim gave it thanks for joining us a comeback as is again soon Erica thanks just a Mark Stuart I really appreciate it shopping.
So I've had to cut off dog that was good point is an interesting philosophical discussion would -- on them and --
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