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I've talked a lot of on this show about the need for leadership in the challenge of securing America's future I believe a lot of that depends on our education system.
And now former education secretary and bestselling author.
William -- is out with a new book the book of men.
Readings on the path to manhood.
It's about what He says is the need for real men in a society that actually tossed them away.
Little bit that's why the studio and joins me now hi and welcome to jump into Greek -- -- you might be for years yet thank you saying there you know I got the book and I started reading it on Friday when my son and says it's forty years old and here's -- thing.
I'm I'm trying to use this book along with all the other things in life and I'm in the challenges.
What He listens to what He watches some going against rate I'm going against -- -- How did the book.
But it's -- -- 10 yeah I know at some houses book -- to make a change how's that gonna help us and in guiding our young men to be great.
Young boys to be great young men you know the Booker mayor Robert Nesbit said once smart -- on economies -- for life to succeed.
The forces of composition have to -- where the forces of decomposition.
When you raise these boys they have a tendency you know to go down you know gravity to go and stuff that's that's a good we raise boys we saw that.
But you know some of these concerts some of these things if it that'll fit it'll be okay.
Long as you're there you're there -- this can influence that's that there's almost irreplaceable and almost overwhelming.
Child psychology so you know yeah add it all up but it's a summer good influences but that's for import there's no doubt though that we have a crisis in this country when it comes due out -- -- with young men men and who have worked for you know the role of men -- men wanna do I talk a lot about Japan you know they have the of the call on the there's a name for the did the guys over there who don't wanna work the -- right.
They really go to the beauty salon and in the gym and a and they don't that's a real softening there and it do you feel like it's happening here.
One of the studies that underlines spoke -- society in England where.
They said men young men spent 83 minutes a day and they're grooming women 79 minutes.
So I think that of that's the next there are other studies suggesting and this is really explosive stuff testosterone is on the decline.
In in western societies because of activities of men aren't engaging in that they should be traditional -- -- activities.
I think the most important factor having do really with stuffy talk about every day jobs the -- economy.
For the first time in human history women come into adulthood.
With them with better education more achievement and more ambition in the minute we said you go girl and the girls way.
And you you see this every day entries hit -- Wall Street a lot of the boys by the young men have been left behind so we need in this recent wrote the book need to remind them what it is to be.
And in 1940s.
You know we had the war so that that creative Rosie the riveter right.
What's -- parade -- the computer program -- what what can actually spark that so that.
It's it's some sort of national Tiffany that this has to be done well I think for smaller recognition and you know a lot of the data we have.
The most impressive arguments made by the women He talk to young women in their twenties -- -- talk to me about meant.
They'll say maybe maybe minute.
Xbox -- please in of the posting these are strong women and and many of them supported feminist revolution but they want strong -- as well.
And we're not seeing them what I have in this book -- models of strong men and six context in work in play in war.
In the family in the political marketplace and nominees and faith and prayer the founders thought.
The things that really made men what they should be.
-- face work.
And and engagement -- If we read target alive brigade -- -- -- -- -- Frazier pardon and I thought both them fantastic if I'm going to -- credit give him to finish his book of one point with me hi I'm enjoying it as much that's what I hope He has so.
Let's look downtown we see this protests Wall Street a lot of young -- down there.
Is that sort of an endemic of what's going on do you see any sort of parallels to that and in which are trying to achieve with this book.
Well to some extent yeah I mean I think that you know some of this happens every generation but word what we're not seeing is that constructive putting one foot in front of the other.
Pursuing a career in getting a job in making those commitments that will make your life better.
That we saw -- previous generations the real surprise Charles here is that we know the marriage there's a lot of marriages fall apart non formation of families babies wouldn't -- But we didn't know how much harder this would be men and women the women seem to have better coping mechanisms -- -- structure.
The guy who introduced me and said -- from my first confirmation.
And cents in morning.
He wrote famously.
Every society knows whether it's Bangladesh US yesterday.
That you don't raise boys to men without that we're seeing more boys without men and there them so we have seen before rob I was raised -- single -- him He can do it you can succeed but my mother went to great pains to put -- from about.
So it sort of my mother my parents divorced when I was twelve coaches -- raise us in the middle -- it was hard and right are analyzer because of restraint and that's why I relate to this I understand you're talking about.
Let's have a little bit to the to the political arena for mercy announcing today finally police -- asking.
I know that you are where minutes -- Paul Ryan right.
Did you did you try to get him to the into the -- assured that I spent two days Colorado in the summer we take a hike almost every year.
And He was undecided and He decided but we -- -- think He just didn't have the fire in them to do it now.
I think you can do in the future I think Christie mind I mean as a Republican conservative we got a great bench.
But that's about future.
So the when I think about Paul -- know -- pops into my -- looking and his economic plan -- tough law it is tough we talk about young men that being prepared but is America prepared for the sort of tough decisions that it's gonna take that really get this over the -- it's a great question and and I was persuaded someone afterwards although disappointed.
That would -- is talking about may be too -- for what we have right now.
Maybe we need more the message of you know Hindu Herman Cain and -- you know that that incredible disposition that that you know we can do this is.
This may be more what we need in terms of that you know I think you're right because I feel like I've been calling this market is not a bull market a bear market it's a woe is me market I think it reflects America right now.
Everyone's angry at everyone else everyone's pointing fingers and you make the point earlier few people.
Our results oriented -- and the particularly young people saying listen I just got to do take the jobs to get what I want -- -- like -- -- -- having handing over to answer and look at Perry's have a cup bid debates but BP he's got that optimistic attitude to.
But let's give it to Romney I mean this conservative basis -- group -- victim Mitt Romney.
But maybe as with the guys -- the other day they can learn to like him He pulled off by they have no choice right may have to say the he'd be restarted in general.
-- I've been -- -- for a long time Neal Brennan the book of men I'd recommend it to anybody with young young young men and their household for sure.
Thank you very much anybody knows boy anybody knows boy they -- -- they are.
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