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James Cliburn joins -- right now congress and what do you make of these savings when when many in your sides are saying they're too severe.
I'm looking at them and saying they're not severe enough.
While -- thank you so much for having me -- good to be back -- this let me say this.
I think that what we're guarded view in this.
Joint select committee.
This took a look at everything.
That is me and done.
And we're going to tried if if I might use this term if fair and balanced approach.
To get -- -- work done.
I want to look at everything.
I do believe that there are some areas.
That we can get into that has not been discussed before where we can get significant savings.
Let me see here it but congress and what is significant savings because.
When I here's -- -- members say 300 to 500 billion in additional.
Savings the president wants to announce next week.
And I just mentioned that the all of these programs together 21 point four trillion dollars -- the next ten years.
That's kind of chump change in the scheme of things and -- are you guys -- cry about.
We'll look Neil.
You -- -- that -- didn't Affordable Care Act.
With the -- 500 billion dollar statements in Medicare.
To get misrepresented that we work.
Particularly out of people's benefits we were not doing -- -- But it's sort of -- -- is it extended the life of Medicare by fourteen years.
I wanna take a look at -- that we can continue to extend the life submitted via the father out embattled what.
But I guess and I know what you're trying to do and I now believe I'm not.
Trying to deliberately -- one side -- -- -- because Republicans talk a good game on their savings and they don't add up substantially certainly the cuts that they envision.
We're coming in the outer years and just a small stimulus.
So I guess -- I -- He was.
If it's your -- that difficult to that onerous to cut 300 to 500 million dollars over ten years.
In the middle of an ocean of 21 and a half trillion dollars in spending.
What's to give me hope any American taxpayer hope.
That you'll do something more substantial when when does -- -- -- starts right at the Getty.
Or it always happens you know that that's not come of -- here at single person.
On this committee that's what robots six Democrats six Republicans.
Six and it is six house members.
We're up in -- attention to all of that stuff we'll move.
-- at least another reason congress and apparently somebody has because they hear this and as my guess.
We're putting all its money in the present we're not going to deliver -- -- -- we -- let you know.
-- and and it was saying well look we've got analysts spending they're not doing it as soon as we raise -- -- you know with winning ground on the equipment.
And on we got well understood how far you've got.
Required to do in -- one point five trillion.
Most of us on -- committed -- like to go even further than that and I'm in that group of a lot of.
-- when the Berlin says 300 to 500 billion entitlements over ten years.
It is okay -- Well the but the way to get -- -- if you look at this thing and you want to do some needs testing.
-- I took a look at that it won't look at.
A need days.
Co payments are for people getting.
These entitlements I might take a look at that that's the way to do this look.
You've got people who I really believe hard hitting.
Entitlements and then we'll tell you themselves.
They can afford to pay a -- appropriate.
Less than co payments based upon the and -- to those people who fixed in come -- in this and -- thousand dollars a year.
Then you don't have well you -- is the minimum -- What you don't look so easy in the US and sound ideas you know a lot of seem to be on the revenue side but that's intact but I well I I will say this you're offered some ideas I just think.
For your side and for the Republican side to talk about you know what they're gonna do here and then not deliver it.
Is is a sense that's.
Oh -- you -- with it but give us a chance.
We really want to get rid -- it ended and I just -- I think I -- -- Side was saying about the relatively paltry savings the president wants to announce next week.
And some of your guys are given him only Alabama and I'm I'm given Ali -- leaders is not on are not.
Well look -- -- twelve of us on this committee.
There and I think we're basically on the -- page.
I get along well with all twelve members.
And I think we are.
Will complement each other in trying to get -- need to be a real look.
And how to do some surgical cuts.
-- you agree well the the Congressional Black Caucus that that the president has been on went to book.
While on the or the current reflect caucus at that I was in a meeting today no one ever say that when I don't and I a hundred billion dollars is too much that's -- -- Well I don't know.
-- -- to concede what the president does is put on the table I have not seen that.
Three and that there a billion.
Is not too much from certain areas okay it may be too much from other areas some of them looked at it city where is -- trying to get it from.
And out of the criticism of that time well now there's too much or maybe even not enough.
Okay congressman thank you very very much.
Thank you those.
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