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Little later on towards the end of the -- Former North Dakota senator Byron Dorgan is all too familiar with how things get done on Capitol Hill senator welcome the last time.
We had you on new report -- pleased -- that was fair.
In the nation's capital with lawmakers trying to come up with a debt deal so what if anything -- change that would make you think.
-- both the right and the left can come together and get this jobs went past.
Well I don't know I mean there's not much to suggest that things have changed I hope that perhaps they got an -- in August.
When they went home and in congress and and that would come back and decide that this country is -- huge trouble our economy is very sick it needs help.
And it cannot be a solution to do nothing had to the president offered his ideas last evening.
They're not gonna be an -- day in total but.
If there's some of them -- selected by Republicans as good ideas let's embrace those let's define the best ideas from the Republican side and let's go forward try to help this country.
But how much bang -- -- and David Rosenberg just talk with Connell McShane about how much bang.
We would get for our -- and it's like half of 1% to 1% additional growth.
For half a trillion dollars doesn't sound like much.
Yeah I don't know I mean I just I listen to the economist and it reminded me of the -- the economists who.
Was reputed to have predicted ten of the last two recessions you know.
We know this country's in trouble we know we have to do some things we know we have to reduce indebtedness and risk to cut spending and raise some revenues so on.
But let me just say that I don't think anybody believes there's a secret sauce or -- special potion.
That someone knows about that will fix what's wrong in America this is gonna be a long difficult struggle that would be the best of what both political parties can Begin to offer.
Do you do you think the president should have gone big that was much of what we talked about yesterday.
That in maybe you maybe in some way set the stage for a broad tax reform but corporate and individual.
But should He have rather than -- out of this some small smaller piece meal plan much of what we've heard before an extension of what's already been in place.
Just gone big and -- -- trying to throw throw the ball down to the enzyme.
Well in terms of tax reform and making it simpler fairer and also.
Tax code that supports economic growth I think the president is interested in something that's very significant there but let me also fight like just say that.
The president -- as do Republicans miss.
The job creating opportunity that is most significant.
And that is plug in the drain on the millions of American jobs that are moving overseas you know they're all talking about the Fossett already put jobs into this economy.
But try to turn on the faucet if you don't plug the -- makes no sense.
And Alan Blinder the former vice chairman of the Fed says -- -- up to forty million American jobs that are susceptible to being outsourced in search of cheap labor some.
Or else then -- at ways to address that as well -- haven't it makes sense that Jeffrey M outlook aghast at the First Lady.
When David G has been one of -- the biggest culprits of moving jobs to China.
They'd have to ask somebody else that question I mean you're you're exactly right about General Electric but not not only that they didn't pay any income taxes -- a recent year on -- very sizable income those are two big issues.
Keeping American jobs here I think the president addressed some of it last night by saying let's incentivized those producers who.
Produce here at home and hire people here at home.
But you know what we we have to renegotiate -- -- -- trade agreements we have to shut down these things in the tax code that rewards companies that move jobs overseas.
It -- and nobody's talking about these issues we have to address them or millions of jobs we'll continue to move overseas.
Senator Dorgan was great to see senator Byron Dorgan former senator from the -- state of new.
Up North Dakota they well.
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