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Spies, Lies & Allies

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    Michael Scheuer details the American/Israeli spy case, the Iraqi troop drawdown & U.S. aid to the Taliban.

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Bugged phones and leaking documents it's -- stuff of a spy novel are really they're the details of US government spying on its ally Israel.

For fear that it was waging too much power on Capitol Hill.

This is the senate intelligence.

Chairwoman -- Democrat.

Says the ends the situation in Iraq yeah carriers to pull back and leave just 3000 troops there by the end of the year as President Obama wants to do.

But senator Feinstein has got it all wrong on Iraq just as the president is wrong despite and Israel.

Here on all that Michael -- your good friend of the show former bin Laden hunter former CIA.

Career operative Michael it's a pleasure welcome back.

To predict the judge first thing should we be surprised that the American government whether it's the intelligence agencies -- the FBI.

It's spying on our allies here in the United States of America or is this something that has been going on for years and we just didn't know about it until recently.

-- are real allies like Canada order or Britain or Australia we would be surprised but.

It's it's a pleasant surprise to me to find out that the FBI is -- and the Israelis the Israelis are a certainly and -- immensely malign influence in the United States.

They steal our technology.

Base of -- government employees to spy for them and transfer documents.

And certainly there and influence through US citizen groups like a pack.

And -- the congress is politically corrupting.

So I I think they're perfectly correct to be spying and the is really what.

What has Benjamin Netanyahu say the President Obama the next time they me why your people listening to my phone calls that was -- -- -- the ambassador while some agent of yours was listening.

Well that Yahoo! will just tell the president what it's what to do -- what not to do.

That's what Israeli prime ministers due to US presidents.

And what will happen in the congress is the key is that is that congressmen and women who are all -- or at least bribed.

By a -- and other other US citizen organizations that support Israel.

Will threaten the FBI with budget cuts -- manpower cuts if they don't stop watching the Israelis.

Got.

Yesterday the White House leaked again it's another leak has been no official announcement.

That even though the president is committed to withdrawing all American troops from Iraq by the end of this year -- just four months from now.

He wants to -- 3000 troops behind what's the reaction in the intelligence community Michael to a decision bought back.

I would think that the -- their reaction would be is we're like putting a gate at regiment of cavalry in the in afford in the middle of Indian territory.

3000 people aren't going to have any effect inside of Iraq except to maintain our presence.

But I think what they're confronting here is the reality.

A westward movement judge which -- if you will out of South Asia -- out of the Persian gulf through Iraq to the Levine's.

To Syria to Lebanon to Palestine.

And and that's what they created by and by getting rid of Saddam.

They opened up for root for those people to get to North Africa to get -- -- -- the Israelis up close that would never have been there when Saddam was in powers are.

Our ideas advanced are you saying that American military adventurism.

In Iraq has made it less safe.

Or western interests than it was when Saddam Hussein was running the government.

Iraq are absolutely in terms of terrorism judged Saddam was our best ally He was afraid -- -- -- didn't have to be riker cajoled.

He killed the Sunni islamists who came into his country if He found them He was a great.

Ally in that sense.

He -- -- around with the Palestinians in in paid off murders families in that kind of thing.

But the great bulk of the Sunni extremist movement could not move westward because of Saddam.

Before I let -- -- another report out over that Labor Day weekend is that.

Hundreds of millions of dollars of Defense Department funds have ended up in the hands of Taliban arguably used to buy weapons to kill American soldiers is Michael shorter surprised.

I'm not sure because we were we have to subcontracted.

To people to move our weapons are -- nation higher food and water from per rap sheet through Pakistan.

And it has to go through the tribal areas so they're gonna have to pay off the tribes that live there.

In order to get them through safely part of that money absolutely is gonna go to the Taliban.

It's it's something that we found out now because it's in the press but it's.

If you think about it from the first day it was happening that was the only way for to work.

Got it Michael shorter as usual pleasure thanks for joining us thank you -- be careful where.

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