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    Rapping Fordham University Professor Mark Naison debates gentrification with FBN’s Charles Payne.

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Imported -- well treated applying cool the market.

They don't have a school -- and -- what not but I think you are available to pick up on this thing that we.

Is this what they thought.

That was our -- that notorious Ph.D.

University professor who raps against gentrification.

Did you vacation is what happens when an urban area receives an influx of middle to upper class residents.

It's already taken place in at least two New York City girls and my next guest the notorious BH himself.

It's actually worried that the Bronx will be -- -- announced Fordham University professor mark mason.

Notorious Ph.D.

What what's happening in the broad sense worrying you right now.

Well the main thing is that people are being pushed out of other borrows and moving -- to the Bronx.

-- course of gentrification the three fastest growing groups in the Bronx are Mexicans.

At west Africans and dominicans.

And that population influx is being pushed by gentrification.

In Washington Heights which is pushing dominicans into the west Bronx.

It's west -- what that.

It's nothing is wrong of it in less you have.

People who were living in a multi class neighborhood who were suddenly -- -- homo genius neighborhood where they're very few middle class people where they are living packed in apartments two or three families together.

But people -- though -- they can afford the rents right in another words.

The reds are a certain level and these neighborhoods and abroad right now so that the dominicans who move in there that's where they can afford it that's for the launch of an element.

But the problem is that a lot of the families have to double up to afford the rents in the Bronx.

And doubling up creates all kinds of problems that are in terms of the -- with the buildings it also creates educational issues.

I'm not sure what your background is with respect to how -- your family came in New York but the history of New York the Bronx and all the other -- is always been.

People coming in.

Lower class people and even you know sometimes wealthier -- Iran and they doubled update troubled on Friday but they had to do they struggled and then they moved around.

And ultimately maybe they've moved out all the burrow into the suburbs like Charles.

There was never this.

Mal distribution of wealth in New York that there is now not in the last sixty years the top 1% of the population makes 44%.

Of the income when I was growing up in Brooklyn.

In the in the fifties it was -- -- I don't want -- you know.

Do you would you want to do you want someone.

Who will who went to school started a business worked hard for twenty years another making millions of dollars to make less money because someone just came off the -- from West Africa.

I just want to describe.

That I don't like the New York -- this gap.

This is different from what I grew up in.

It's different from what my kids grew up in and I'm coming here represented the people in -- unisex -- Park Slope right just got a haircut.

This is -- neighborhood business and these folks feel that they can't hold on much longer -- the rents are going up that much.

This is a Hispanic owned business.

And they're saying Marc tell people on fox.

That we have being pushed out by people from -- in New York the real New Yorkers are being pushed out -- Park Slope.

But New York has always been a transitory place and it's a place where success is always -- Here's what I worry about when I hear the gentrification argument -- that I grew up in Harlem we always said you know sooner or later white people gonna come and it gonna take over the neighborhood and and it was almost like it was said in a way where it was a bad thing in other words if the neighborhoods better.

Have better quality stores come in that's a bad thing of it through higher class of people with respect to incomes -- and that's a bad thing if we start to fix buildings up percent of having rubble and empty lots.

That's a bad thing.

All the way I think it hurt the people who lives there thinking that perhaps this is where I should be.

Amongst this rubble rubble and I'm not I shouldn't be -- -- you know we don't wanna let them in our walls and we wanna keep billboard chart.

This is balance let me when I moved to Park Slope in 1976.

Out of patrol my block with a metal -- there were abandoned buildings four blocks away.

I was part of the people we build block associations we organized parents' groups for fifteen years I ran our youth organization.

And in fifteen years the abandoned buildings were fixed up and we had a great neighborhood then.

The last twenty years a lot of the people who work hard to rebuild that neighborhood have been pushed out and it's it's I can't recognize it.

The score my kids went to was a third black a third Latino a third -- it's now 70% white and white very wealthy.

My kids had the greatest experience.

Growing up.

In a neighborhood where you have mixtures of of races and classes and what I'm worried about is we don't have neighborhoods like that in the -- anymore I just got a tape professor and.

I worry to win when the argument is as it gets upward mobility.

And things getting better.

Regardless of race I think when you bring race into it is selling the whole thing and it's -- -- change is that that -- -- I understand what we're saying we're out of time you know hope we can get you back on again because -- quite an interest thing I've lived through it and I and I see both sides although.

I think that argument against gentrification is one that hurts people who live in these poor neighborhoods more than ups I'd love to come back and talk about this a good about it okay -- go professor -- thank you very much.

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