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Now democratic states senator rather Chuck Schumer is urging the State Department the cut off -- to Libya no matter who's in charge until the -- He has put back and tell.
-- and from the Cato Institute joins us a -- is Chuck Schumer right on this one.
I think now I think this is an open up a sort of pandora's box of problems if you look at the commentary coming out of the region.
Thirty fears that NATO essentially is using its own arguments for whatever ulterior motives they might happen I think the sort of season to those sorts of theories as far as what other reasons the United States and the Western European powers are there.
And I think unfortunately now we're gonna see more arguments coming in terms of what other stipulations would be attached to the US and NATO aid.
And again -- seriously be commentary coming from the region that.
The humanitarian arguments for the war were essentially pretext for western imperialism sort of all these different arguments.
And I think the more stipulations that are attached to the eat the more that'll feed those sort of theories in the region.
Well I but -- this is the thing -- they didn't get a lot of money and help from us if it wasn't for America they'd be somewhere throw rocks at a couple of -- here and there.
Or cowering in a bunker somewhere so.
That this might be the smallest stipulation I can think of it this is the one stipulation that's that.
You know I understand the argument.
About the modern day crusade and they're -- Libyan oil but this seems something totally different.
Well again this is sort of that the complex issues we have when it comes to foreign intervention.
Where does the sovereignty ally is it that that we actually created a government are trying to create a government and Libya that can stand up on its own and if so doesn't have the sovereign right to reject the these arguments that -- Iraqi should be extradited.
I mean if we are there to essentially help the Libyans have been extremely critical of the intervention.
But if those people who wanted to be so that we are creating a sovereign government and they have whatever -- they have to to essentially say no to extradition.
And of course goes right to be a two way street have we felt well you know what we've helped you guys we've liberated your country more or less with our money intelligence and whatever else.
We would have the right thing we don't want to continue to fund this particular government is rhetorically because.
Note that when I heard that initial statement that it's bit like it it wasn't a very combative.
And sounded very anti American anti western -- at Western Europe.
I'm sitting this is the thing to I mean a lot of it the people from the transitional -- national council that we've seen.
Appear on the western media you know.
-- they appear very benign they were suits and ties.
But not all the people who -- part of the rebel movement really look this way I mean there are elements.
-- of the Libyan transitional council and and other rebel movement who have been designated by the US State Department as a militant terrorist organizations.
And I think really what now what now we see -- you know even though it may be curtains from Moammar Qaddafi.
A -- distillate quite -- we still have a broken economy and deeply fractured society -- cities -- mistreated by the ongoing conflict.
And so really -- the a lot of the the -- hard sort of hard when difficulties will be will be seen in the months and years patent.
So having said all that we only have thirty seconds left wouldn't be smart for us -- pull back the throttle with more eight.
Until we can let things sort of let let let things sort of settle down a little bit.
Absolutely I think the worst thing we can do now is to sit -- and measure ourselves even deeper into the conflict in Libya again there are so many.
Other issues they're competing allegiances amongst various tribes that we.
A deathly don't know about these are sort of -- similar problems that we've been experiencing in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And again this is sort of at a quintessential mission creep what began as a neutral intervention.
To prevent -- massacre and -- Ghazi.
Has since morphed into sort of backing one set of a civil war and over during a sitting government that is extremely scary that's essentially regime change.
And for the past five months NATO has been pummeling Libya with over 171000 sorties.
This is regime change is really unfortunate I might have a presence there right Melissa thank you very much appreciate it.