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And now this disturbing story in investigation into a 750.
Million dollar year Illinois program that subsidizes child care for the poor finds that convicted rapists -- -- and other violent felons were paid.
The baby -- children.
Families -- ball -- back to the freedom fighters to discuss is very disturbing.
Standard Sabrina -- Jacob more burger and Ellis Henican Ellis got to go to -- Is this proof that government run programs -- just inefficient local health -- or a -- -- -- Muslim let me get this straight.
Child molester -- -- now.
I mean could anything be more troubling than that bad idea stop it immediately -- been stopped and I don't think anybody this table get a defendant.
We got -- the credit Sabrina but is a is an example what happens when -- his money into the government that's tried to appease everyone.
Absolutely this is why I'm only the needs that -- feminist groups on the -- like now are so.
Supportive of the government getting into the business of child -- and certainly of greater you know pre K education and at this it just.
Baffles me why -- want the government to make a judgment call and who's.
Deems -- or not fit to watch our children -- -- the -- and let alone there's so many economic problems with all -- that we can get to that later -- Hell maybe maybe your -- would be it's straight on into that loop I assume that a it's picked a bad.
A convicted felon might be more persuasive been a nanny but role especially with a relatively is just the whole PC thing run amok.
Well it isn't and I think -- in a large -- -- the whole welfare state the war on poverty run -- coming this is the ultimate of the welfare state.
We've had this war on poverty for what since sixty years or so.
And this is worth come to what we does -- about a cent.
This is not there's a brand there are alternatives to that at that that they think that if if the government doesn't like since.
You know daycare providers that somehow the private market can see that but in fact it's just the opposite there are all sorts of Internet a right and and other services that allow you -- you.
Background -- to get references -- find out all sorts of information about childcare providers.
When the government gets into the business of this it just -- all of those other legitimate organization out of the way.
We know that OK now let's shift gears guys because the question now should the government be able to attract you without your knowledge we know that police and detectives they've been thrilling suspects for decades.
But other Justice Department has argued that -- candidate should be able to -- -- GPS device.
In your car without a court order this just boys are still evoking anti wiretapping laws -- -- citizens from filming them.
On the job Sabrina.
-- is poised powers are we know just completely you know there's this thing the constitution and there's this thing about people having individual rights.
Would -- think about this latest attempt to go further into your rights.
Well I understand that maintaining law and order and the balance of civil liberties is difficult but you absolutely need to have a court order.
And otherwise you're in violation of the Fourth Amendment.
Tick up you know but -- really did you know Dane we owe them everything -- protect us and they say let's -- -- times.
When a court -- just it doesn't make sense we don't have enough time and urgency is of the essence.
Well you know that's just tough that that you know we live in a society where we place and extremely high value on privacy.
If people think that the government now has the power to.
But GPS -- devices on their cars it's -- Alter behavior.
This is not -- a free society is all about you shouldn't have to be even worried about that the cops to put some kind of device in your car that's not what freedom's about.
Ellis we had a trifecta the last topic so what about this well the trifecta meeting -- -- and then you hear every category and that's what they're absolutely right.
About this is a perfectly orderly system we already have.
You go to would judge the judge signs an order if you have probable cause to do you get permission to do it -- this is ridiculous they ought to go through a process we don't want.
Cops willingly making these decisions on that run that's no way to run up criminal -- -- blitzer.
Nevertheless we have -- -- a police really get a lot of leeway.
Do you think this could still happen despite the fact all three of you agree.
Yeah I do and I think that's partly have to be especially vigilant in -- as technology progresses we need to make sure that we.
Yes stay loyal to that to the principles of the constitution it recognizes we still have civil liberties -- -- Bear -- Jacob would got ten seconds anything you wanna add to that.
Now at -- I think that's -- thing is eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.
That's what we've got to do we've got to watch these people.
Because their moment in a very bad direction as far as our freedom is concerned the price of liberty I -- that one that's a great bumper sticker guys thank you very much you've been fantastic.
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