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Wolf president Obama's council on jobs and competitiveness.
-- to meet with business leaders tomorrow is both sides struggled to break -- The back of kind of -- -- get that August comprehensive August unemployment report on Friday but a recent study is finding that the problem may not be.
To feel a bit available jobs but too few qualified workers for more on -- were joined by.
Dave had -- small business -- principal level -- vs.
Technologies and just a question I mean your view on a computer programming and software consulting firm and it seems to me that the jobs.
That cannot be filled.
IT.
Manufacturing.
But I T manufacturing I say this because the -- of the scope of manufacturing in the sector has changes is that the case in your opinion.
Definitely your right Cisco has changed they've both overlapping yeah it's it's a big problem finding people with the right skill set and the right attitude about work these days is become increasingly difficult we'd like to higher right now and had a very difficult time finding programmers.
I'll tell you it seems like a simple fix right just retrain workers why is it simple though why is -- so tough to get.
People retrain into these positions that CEO for for employers such as yourself -- Effort for workers.
Well I think part of it is back when -- when the tech bubble exploded in 2000 a lot of people were scared off I've worked in this industry for about twenty years it's really all I've ever done in.
There's a lot of great careers in the -- -- business particularly in the programming sector jobs are highly in demand they pay well they're mobile you can move around live wherever you want great benefits.
But I think a lot of people were scared off I think a lot of people overestimate how difficult these jobs are it does take a certain kind of person.
But -- well within the grasp of most people if there will only get themselves a little retraining.
The -- -- think that's the problem here and if you look at unemployment rate was say.
Those that have a bachelor's degree in the unemployment rate for those.
Who only finished high school it's a huge.
Difference but many people can't afford to go back to school student loans are tough to get right now what advice would you give to somebody.
Who is saying no obvious news reports about jobs in nineteen but doesn't have the skill set to get the jobs in nineteen.
Well I'll be honest it is small business senators had a lot of programmers over the years you know -- a college degree is important but it's really not as important as actual experience.
There is this someone with a degree in programming.
And someone his work a lot of these people -- person would be much more inclined to hire someone that had demonstrable skills -- could sit -- -- show me.
That they can do the work and also that they understand business and that they understand why you're doing the programs -- that's a big part of the people don't want to pay just for programming.
They're usually trying to pay for a solution to a challenging business problem.
So you can't get yourself some training and break it it can be difficult it's probably a lot easier to go through a more traditional channel but there's lots of great Community Colleges out there.
We can get an education for a relatively little amount of money.
-- that's definitely a good way for people to take a look at give breaking into this field.
Blake gave so many people are also under water.
On their mortgages and talk about the weak housing market keeping people.
Places in they might not have a have been a choice to move to talk about that -- net that that's got to be influencing things.
Well that's that's a big problem too obviously but that's one of the great things about this this field.
And especially if you're a programmer you can often work remotely doesn't work for every industry doesn't work for every job doesn't work -- every Boston.
-- unemployed people that we've never met they worked in Seattle they wrapped every day thanks to the great technology.
And great you know high speed Internet connectivity from just about everywhere now.
You can work from wherever you are so that's that's another thing that's great about being able to break into this industry it does not necessarily require that you relocate.
You know there's lots of great companies here in Cincinnati like Kroger and P&G that are looking for talent.
Or even small guys like us.
And in many cases -- they weren't willing to work with you if you have the right attitude in the right at the kids you don't necessarily have to relocate and again another major benefit of this business.
Are -- -- -- of many thanks of course will be reporting.
That -- the president meets -- the jobs council what they come up with certainly desperate for new ideas in the mean.