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Was in the -- going uptown and from my apartment on twenty street and not -- -- restaurant He says.
I get a call from the Federal Bureau of Prisons and -- wants to talk to you take a recorded thing and I said look.
It fly if five you wanna talk to play five -- -- hey Charlie it's burning Madoff kept and the -- burning -- I mean I was blown away.
You -- regrettable that -- Madoff.
And I -- -- this eighty in my believing in committee is -- is just how nice of a guy comes across and He He is a real charmer.
It sounds like he's very down to earth He sounds honest.
He sounds forthright -- and -- And then when you and what I what I try to do what can destroy started hot Citi sounds it SOK witness aren't and what when you scratch the surface a little bit.
Along and nothing will happen I think if you -- think it is a thing.
He we we wrote the story from fox for fox is stock option for its you don't do the quotes and when He said to me just despite.
Just we talk about but here's and things -- -- be nice He is clue what's going on Bernie Madoff is on.
A major PR campaign in using the media to do this.
To change his image to basically so -- it to make it like He was trapped into doing this.
To basically show that he's been trapped in -- doing memories -- shall not taking responsibility for what He did not taken total responsibility -- what I was clients put.
-- and not only that -- it's more or less like He wants the world to know that He still important.
And He makes stuff up and He basically told me that -- is creating an entrepreneurial course.
Around around his -- -- life.
Pre pre event.
Is -- arrogant I -- still aren't -- everything He did all the people that He robbed and destroy their lives I don't still thinks that He is some really an investor you know.
He thinks he's a smart guy and He thinks He has a lot to -- thinks he's still important.
And that's part of what's going on here Bernie Madoff is still living in a fantasy world how to be able -- able to like do what He did.
Overruled those yellow book pathological that's my view you have our you have to like -- have to construct alternate reality and that's what he's doing that we should point out Harvard said.
He's not gonna teach the course we should also point out that he's worried about how we son is gonna go to sixty minutes his son is talking to sixers right now.
About giving his side the story members son is a strange for Bernie is -- and markets you know committed suicide about a year ago.
-- so this is all that's going on you know He faces a lot of pressure.
He feels about telling the world that He still important he's knows his family doesn't like -- right now his wife and some restraints are.
So what he's doing now and this is where comes to journalists like me.
Is it worth giving him the soap -- to obviously spin and -- As happened Everett I have to ask you you mentioned her no He didn't but I I understand He isn't that I and -- -- -- -- but I think the story.
He's worth reading -- up Fox Business outcome I wrote it and it goes beyond this it talks about how He says Steve Steve Collins traders.
You know basically we're trying to get insider tips from him they deny it you should know.
This is per a pretty interest in pre wild stuff.
The problem would bear Bernie Madoff is it just about everything He says -- you scratch the surface.
Is baloney and a failure.
You gotta ask yourself why everybody wants the big interview with the member hasn't them TV interviews done a few printed -- including myself is not the the big TV interview.
I think Philip me and Charlie -- I don't know I want to I want to go to -- sudden going to start idol -- -- already -- a -- I don't think it's worth it -- I don't think it's worth to give the megaphone to life Charlie Gasparino -- log in and right now we're gonna got to --
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