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Does Debt Ceiling Plan Need to Include Medicare, Medicaid Cuts?

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    Rep. Jan Schakowsky, (D-Ill.), argues Medicare and Medicaid reform should be addressed after an agreement on the debt ceiling is reached.

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What -- a little dizzy trying to gets better get a good for all the health care cause he's going out of control a new government report out today showing that Medicare and Medicaid -- Are expected to soar over the next decade and Watson will be taking up a bigger.

Part of that tab but neither plan from John -- Harry Reid do much to address those costs.

Illinois democratic congresswoman Jan two -- He says that's fine by her thus far congress -- -- -- back.

That's looking pretty bad what do you do.

Antonio -- hot talk about health care.

We can talk about it today we can talk about it tomorrow we can talk about it next Wednesday in the mean time.

Social Security checks and -- seventy million others -- may not -- out we could solve that by next Wednesday we could solve that problem.

In about five minutes that is the crisis we are facing right now.

But -- I don't I'm cats aren't the mark.

It's in some of these ratings agencies congress -- Saying that if you do a deal and hurriedly raised the debt -- and you don't address city of these entitlement costs and these escalating health care costs.

As neither plan really does that mean they -- little bit more -- the -- plan but not a heck of a -- marks.

Then you're you're you're gonna get downgraded regardless and you're gonna be behind able regardless.

Now I think that we have to be serious.

About addressing that but the problem that the Republicans are not serious wanted to spend this evening.

Naming post offices while I don't know I they say you're not serious you don't even wanna touch -- this is.

If you're talking about.

Medicare.

And Medicaid Social Security we do not need to balance the budget on the back of senior I didn't -- balance the market on this and try to.

Their growth because these agencies.

And the GAO on the CBO -- said that those are the costs that are escalating.

Beyond what either planned Republican or Democrat a pretty.

Yeah it's where they don't make it had this conversation before about making these programs more efficient and cutting their costs.

The Republicans have -- -- in cutting the cost they want to shift the cost shift the cost to the back of people.

I believe hello my head our congresswoman even allowing for getting the cost of -- and making them more efficient as you repeated the floor.

That's not even addressed in the Boehner plan that's not even discuss so now we go through the end of next year without touching this I'm.

-- -- -- -- -- -- What why do you think that we have to these are two separate issues.

But -- the Democrats have not walked away from the table.

As mister Boehner has to talk about a reasonable plan I think it needs to include revenues serious.

Brian like the revenue that's why did you wanna go grab headlines but I'm just telling you hear it -- it the other big gorilla in the room.

All of these health -- -- if you don't think needed dressing her up.

I do I do think so but I don't think they need to be addressed.

In the next hour or two hours I think they can no I don't know what's going on dollars in these ratings agencies are saying.

Unless you pass a measure that includes a substance of addressing of the entitlements down the road.

Then anything years saying it is numbers on Paper and they're -- downgrade its regardless so you know thank you -- pyrrhic victory scoring a debt ceiling increase.

Only to get -- -- behind him with a down.

Now I I don't believe that will have a downgrade if there is it the serious commitment that Democrats have as well as Republicans are saying.

To sit down and figure out how we deal with a serious problem of.

You know I admire our capital and congressman why isn't -- global -- waited -- an 800 days.

For your party do we even come up with a budget -- have been all of a sudden there of the world.

Absolutely there the problem because we -- -- hundred days of that budget 800 days when you guys are total control of last Thursday He didn't.

You didn't even submit one.

800 days without a single plan to create jobs because -- if you ask me.

The real crisis we have in this country as a jobs crisis because of people will work fine but and if -- want to tell you.

800 days what -- -- -- -- we're having a conversation here.

Behind if you're offended by ma'am I apologize I'm telling you -- congresswoman I'm telling you this.

We are in a disaster here and your more offended by our referred to you that's the problem.

I don't know that death no what I'm trying to say is let's have we can have that kind of civil conversation you know we can't have it.

And we can actually do something about health care costs and I appreciate that you're not just don't wanna do millionaire next year and He has done -- When they're they're they vote yes we do know why do you think -- just.

Unlike Steve what do you like you you like what Harry Reid is doing his -- He does.

It's actually.

Number of the only reason I like Harry Reid's plan is because it's a one step plant.

It doesn't just dramatically cut so the benefits.

And Medicare Medicaid and Social Security we can have a reasonable.

Conversation about how we do that but not in the next two hours not in the next two days and the Republicans haven't.

Let me put a plan on the table for Medicare that destroys.

Medicare they can call -- their plan whatever they want well sort of -- well is going out and entertainment.

That in itself has gone from saying Medicare is rated doing -- just saying he's worried about Medicare so frankly I'm not a loss as -- -- -- -- Medicare I'm not at a laws.

As to what the ratings agencies and others are beginning to say about what Republicans -- Democrats are doing and you're quite -- -- right to say congresswoman.

That there's a lot of blame to go around Republicans avowed they fiddled around but you guys have -- around 800 plus days without a budget I see a lot of poking around and points finger pointing -- and we just heard from Elizabeth Madonna.

-- very -- selling us.

I don't know -- it -- that there was not a good a budget every year of the bush administration and so you just you just heard from a pro let's.

And McDonald and -- to be -- this very language a discourse on the part of both parties.

That hasn't saying -- parts of both your houses we're gonna downgrade how would you feel about that after.

I would I would feel that we should not be downgraded because we want to re -- the debt ceiling.

Then sit down at the table and you can get a commitment.

From democratic Jew hello have raised the -- that's in less time to 2006 -- wolf prominent Democrats voted against it and then George Bush like a -- know I'd I'd broad I voted to raise the debt ceiling yes I guess so you weren't like your major colleagues in the senate at the time.

Who'll to a man rejected it -- a woman.

Including then senator Barack Obama so then it was in politics now Republicans threatening to do the same it is -- follow.

-- -- meal that is so different it was not brought to a head like this where there were days and hours -- there was no effort to actually block the raising of the debt ceiling this.

Our our -- -- have an opinion thank you very much we'll see I would goes it's an again.

I take it that the --