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Well let's go dive but I'm glad ten years in the business side its nice to see that got that recommendation and the start -- -- Flowers smell -- ten years to get here -- well.
How did you -- Burgoyne expert him.
National security issues you know one of the is.
It's some guys -- in the sports and they do the box scores I just ever since college do when the Soviet Union was crumbling I said what's going to be next big threat nice sought as radical Islam and said.
This is this is interesting stops are just started studying it it's just kind of a very strange hobby if you will but I found it fascinating.
Where you're a friendly may everywhere your where your neighbors sales no no not at all on the son a marine my dad's a marine market.
Were you certain so what got your interest of there's you're right about to seal -- six long before they became fairly famous as a result of Wacom Osama bin Laden clouds.
How that help them.
Well I went to school in Southern California I went to the university Southern California and I -- family that actually lived on Coronado my my cousins live their so that's big -- territory down there.
Excuse me so got to know some seals and you know one of the worst pieces of advice starting out writer -- is -- -- you know.
If that history never would've gotten Clancy 'cause He was on insurance you know I -- -- people write what you love to read.
And I always enjoyed the genre and and haven't some connections with the seals it just seemed to make sense when I decided to write my book.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Creative writing in film and television production one of the -- I know that went into what they actually studied in in school.
All -- maybe the only person ever -- creative writing course.
General spent some of the pro growth add value it took me a while to admit to the Great Santini that I would I had dropped out of being a business administration major -- whichever creative writing for the son of a marine the arts were to make -- better around and they weren't a career path.
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This series of strong levels -- usually not talk about her answering these past three minutes those conversations.
So what slump.
Osama bin Laden operation went on how much of that.
Just by virtue or -- it all is Reuters sports and know it all -- you know.
-- so that did you.
Have a sense of what was going on.
Well when I saw the pictures one of the first things I aideed was that stealth helicopter that they use that they had blown but part of the tail section and going over the wall and didn't get it didn't get blown and -- In the interesting thing is is we -- that place under surveillance for a lot longer in the media let out in said.
The the real big question I had though watching this I've always had you don't kill the kidnapper -- tells you where your kids are.
And so I wonder why we didn't -- this guy in ring amount like it'll dish cloth the way we did with Khalid Sheikh -- I mean -- -- we've heard for years al-Qaeda might bought nukes on the black market from those former Soviet states.
I would have liked to -- at its net effect is a thriller writer I -- I'm hoping that the guy really isn't dead that He sit in some black site right now and -- -- -- fingernails out trying to get the information from a it -- possible.
-- -- it that'd be great static data that that now that's would be a gutsy move.
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You know what.
I don't know did that the problem with -- -- -- alive is eventually got to put him on trial in Saddam Hussein was a big problem for us it would have been a great platform for all his crazy ideas.
Probably at the end of the day aid from a PR standpoint the best thing -- smoke -- to implement in the water.
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I don't think still -- six but it really is there was a there was a Sealy -- to heart of -- And I've talked to another guy.
-- was -- children six times.
And I asked him I'm going to ask do.
-- must do think they knew before they want all the -- of preventing -- absolutely that He was there are or.
From what I've heard they were told there was a very high value target in that compound I don't know that they were told it was Osama bin Laden so I I think they knew they had a pretty big guys there are probably in the top three so I think they they -- have.
Pretty good idea that was going to be one of a handful of guys they were gonna see -- there.
So -- one over the wall not knowing.
On the drug that Osama bin Laden was very thanks for just approved and just a moment -- Yeah I liked it that's what I've heard I don't know that they were specifically told that we spend lot -- -- was his number two bumpy zawahiri.
So I don't trillion in value they had these guys -- the -- in the middle of his forehead that's that's its nickname is bumpy in the community.
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So -- -- the third foreigners.
I -- it looked like Osama and yes very was -- flowing robes striking right there any any to.
Big big brave guy threw his wife in front of the path of the bullets and tried is -- back into the bedroom.
It couldn't have gone down that army it's a shame we lost that helicopter but boy right down -- that dog they had in there with the -- titanium teeth I mean that was just.
All -- sort of -- -- -- interest -- went to I -- of the -- lost a couple of teeth or if they replaced a couple of -- that the dog had a couple of -- -- made of titanium dog head.
Had -- on end and they actually put headphones on the dog -- -- government -- so they can give the dog commands in the dogs great fair reading -- people obviously all with the keen -- -- that we don't necessarily have in that situation.
The -- some.
Controversy about whether in fact Osama did she'll himself of one of his wives or TARP or -- to time.
Made a case for having more than 11 they don't get a say that's what -- got so many of them yeah there are so addition there you go on as a shield of rigor -- the mormons have a mind or perhaps not.
So why go down that road -- So divorce and so we're really I'm sorry I -- -- it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- on the social you'd think that it there was a -- children's over the wife as the bulls wanna know it does look like well yeah I a little.
And at the end of these debt at the end of the day these guys are absolute cowards so it doesn't surprise me at all that the sky which shock one of his -- in front of that the -- bullet.
The broader wanted to -- ever gonna ask you about your current -- -- -- I'm going to ask -- -- don't remember them.
Well full black.
With this book -- based all my books in in reality and I went to a lot of the special operations and intelligence people who help me out with my books I said what's the one thing that keeps you up at night.
And a couple of them came back to me with this plan that was drawn up in the 1990s by a military that was hostile to the US it's that we can never beat the US military.
But we can't collapse the United States from with it.
An excuse -- had all these clever tactics for how they were gonna do it and the plan was called on -- warfare and I used that blueprint.
As the basis for a full -- full black -- it's funny because a lot of the stuff that this called for back in the ninety's.
Creating a financial catastrophe here trying to collapse our financial markets.
Actually even co opting al-Qaeda to get al-Qaeda hit the World Trade Center there's all these things that this plan called for that it's actually happening in the real world -- -- that's what the -- going to be about.
About American and I'm Marie is there -- -- absolutely we just signed a big deal with Warner Bros.
this is going to be -- James Bond or Jason Bourne franchise if you will.
Momentum here -- -- drain I'm try to you know it's it's it's a lot of fun but again ten years in the business it's taken a while to get to this point but it's a.
Aren't the wandered you got -- Euro -- take -- creative writing course look at Lola and I got to have a lot launch of all coolest thing to do.
I'm a lawyer flutter or not senator are -- a good information thank you very much well it's my pleasure thanks for having me under quite welcome Brad store.
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