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This week the Transportation Security Administration.
And that's a new program that lets passengers speak through security and some cases bypass security altogether.
We you know what there's a catch you gotta give the government your personal private information.
So is -- TSA responded to all the bad press.
Or is this just another invasion of privacy -- happen here to discuss at a freedom fighters 2008 libertarian vice presidential candidate.
Nominee Wayne root movement vision lab chief education officer -- talent and max funds dot com -- banner Jonas max Ferris so.
-- what is what do you think.
What what what I think -- you're already giving up most of your -- flying anyway this just taking an advance on those freedoms seeking young -- faster.
They've actually been trying to do this for years there were private companies doing is the government outsource it to -- few companies in -- car called clear and they went bankrupt they can profitably billet.
-- EA I don't really care wanna go on the plane faster they can no I think they wanna come.
And I mean what do you got it -- information you gotta get up give up for the TSA to be enrolled in this program.
-- -- stop someone is generally don't libertarian at all against any invasion of privacy by -- -- I'm not at the end of TSA.
But here's one of the few times all support a program first -- voluntary.
So it's not invasion of privacy they ask you do you want to give up information.
And you will to do it and just like your -- -- I'm thrilled to get an airplane quicker I'm thrilled to get through security quicker.
I'm thrilled not to be hit with cancer rates to be molested.
At the airports -- glad to give up the information.
I'd say I love being the last what is -- -- around that way for granny who wants to bring her tweezers on the airplane and now she's gotta give up grandma's -- give up her personal information disagree or tweezers on the air you know I.
I mean is -- a lot of make -- amount out of mole -- here it's like personally -- they're gonna get your personal information violated or your personal your your your personal you know.
Personal private presents that's and a small the growth look I don't think -- growth.
I think there but let's also be clear you know where we're gonna slanted panel here where probably a lot of frequent flyers here and this isn't gonna help ordinary travelers who are just going on their vacations here and -- we're gonna be still be subject so that -- restraint but Jonas what do you think.
I think the only legitimate.
Concern is that they will bungle it so much that.
Theoretically somebody who's on the part of won't get their bags stuffed theoretically with some -- or whatever and a bill badly managed at the concept is good.
And I think why not they already have a lot of information you don't fly anonymously now aren't given up your freedom flying.
-- greater America because -- another potential danger here addition the government in giving -- -- just privileged citizens status and exchange your personal information.
Yes that's -- Here's the deal.
As Calvin Coolidge once said the business of America is business and what people ask why the economy falling apart -- that no jobs.
It's 'cause Obama and the democratic administration do everything possible to kill business and -- adjusted to -- -- -- to target us and to demonize us here's one time.
What you're telling us that a body do business output to get a million dollar deal to create jobs you're gonna let them on an airplane -- -- get -- -- privileged and.
I feel like I'm on the airplane.
Yeah I mean Citi yeah that's gonna help the public image of the TSA -- Issue here is -- a fear mongering in this notion that you know the government can do something to make us 100%.
Safe.
On airplanes and in public spaces in the reality is shining star had a privilege Ford but that's gonna give up.
Right -- they should but they probably won't be able to pull off because again there was a company that charge -- believe -- dollars a year and they failed because not enough people.
Thought it was a -- worth paying for a lot of the privilege travelers already get this access already by flying first class etc.
Our next -- bothered by the way -- wait and say what less than one less than.
-- these programmable programs freedom watch such a libertarian program I think the real argument should be.
Should the government and the TSA even exist should they won't be providing.
You know already president -- -- not a public not -- government only to not owned by the private company essentially quickly.
Because you're talking to I would likely airline -- last from the.
-- -- This kind of data cleaning out an EPA president Richard Nixon especially those are -- month.
This -- SMP became the last of the major US credit rating agencies to warn of an impending US treasury bonds downgrade.
Big Easy is insisting Washington reverse its addiction to credit.
And reach a deal with four trillion dollars in cuts in ninety days.
Or lose a long held AAA but some wonder do these rating agencies ever tell us that -- we worry don't -- so why -- we place so much weight on what they say.
-- we thank.
OK they've done a bad job sure there's been a lot of mess ups Enron WorldCcom government to senator etc.
but I idyllic they're the whipping boy of the financial -- you but I still think -- serve a purpose.
They do a pretty good job and -- that seems like a joke but most of their ratings are pretty accurate.
It is questionable how they make money that -- of refresh they get paid by the bonds -- wanna be sold.
I mean -- I mean the basic -- -- ratings agencies saying look you gotta stop leaving unicorn manor Washington DC girls were gonna you know do a cut to bid.
You know the triple are you worried about that.
-- that rating agencies are tool of the government I'm sure Obama's putting pressure on the right now to make you feel that they -- don't you don't know that -- And I know than not in -- it's my opinion in 1975.
It was a cartel the monopoly created.
At certain agencies were chosen by the government to provide the ratings for bonds.
So that makes me think the government can always say either say what we want you to say or get out of that's -- Not that I called no I don't -- don't sell what you could make that more profound argument that there you know other tools of the core of the corporate Wall Street began without their business and an -- on about the -- here is.
At you know I wouldn't agree with -- like it's been in this case they don't want this is scary and if you're gonna -- now we consider that less credible marketable whatever is it a little bit of a crisis.
Or attached to their -- yeah -- doing why we have to cure alcoholism with liver failure by risking their -- downgrade.
What I'm not a novelist -- you're saying would they want to go to -- -- rink and say you know we've got -- we're risking a AAA -- -- why can't the congress is and the Democrats.
And the Republicans and the White House get their act together just -- Because we have this.
We're the only country that does this essentially gonna make a political game out of everybody else -- has a debt and that's what it is and we have to play this came back and -- the -- today.
When you when are we gotta go he hears the can -- -- -- okay.
Sorry about that you've -- to -- effect from --
