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-- the US government is cutting aid to talk is down by 800 million dollars in all just a drop in the bucket of course but it is a significant political move.
Judith -- from the Manhattan is.
-- -- -- It's a political move its taxpayer money does not going to Pakistan but in my opinion -- is gonna go to Pakistani eventually we're not gonna cut them off always.
I have to agree with you know we are not going to cut them off this is a country -- which there's simply no good options.
Well a lot of our view is on chomping at the bits and saying cut him off.
We don't want our money going to the guys who -- that it knowingly or otherwise have been mom.
Well if they don't like the current government think of how -- feel.
About 100 nuclear weapons in the hands of the successor government to might be.
Far more radical far more Islamist fact of the matter is Pakistan.
Swings both ways it does when it has to do to protect its interest it is a military ISI intelligent state.
And nobody knows what to do about it -- -- troublesome country in the world.
If we cut them off.
Right if we did that strike you think that the chances are they all -- that they would go to a radical group which would then control hundred news.
That's the that's the equation.
Cut them off -- you get them islamists controlling nukes is that it.
I think the problem is that -- money goes to the Pakistani military which is the group that has been most supportive.
Of American policy.
So we have a four point five billion dollar budget which is what we spent last year in Pakistan.
We're now talking about withholding 800 million.
But that's the money that goes to the military we need to ties to the military because they controlled and it wasn't at the military that.
You know -- up.
That line gets at well there -- no not all of that some of it and we're still investigating that the US government is conducting its own invest.
Student we got to the point where we're abandoning sort of this -- -- the hearts and minds.
Strategy there are now say let's tighten the screws financially on them because.
Other than maybe Chad.
-- that country is the in worse financial shape than anywhere else on.
Earth you know we can't even do -- and here's the problem.
If you do that if you give up on that then you give up on the Pakistani people.
Who are the people who are going to ultimately.
-- -- our ever -- in their cards they'll never be on you know what.
You can't depend on that the only thing you can depend on is cutting them off means you have no access to the information we need.
About -- to protect ourselves so this is not a Philanthropic enterprise it involved you expressing an opinion your opinion would be keep paying them.
I think we have to withhold threatened to withhold we have to make them know that -- -- on happy but ultimately.
As Bruce Riddell former -- -- -- -- the most -- What you say the gift -- you have to because otherwise the result what's the alternative that's -- you fall was got to think China please don't.
Everyone pays them there so I don't but it doesn't help China you want China pay some do you want China to replace the United States and Pakistan and thanks.
What if they became public enemy number one in Pakistan as -- the United States a wooden object of -- rule which we hope that.
I think the Chinese have been very cautious about going into Pakistan near the pakistanis when they wanted to play our game with them when they -- -- -- China please come build us a big new port.
And the Chinese said thank you but no thank you we're not going to go there yes -- -- neighbors they actually -- absolutely said no right.
Judith thank you very much indeed it's an interesting opinion I know we're gonna get some of these strong and public.
But -- expect people appreciate it.
I wish I had a better solution for you I would like to be tougher but sometimes facts are what they are on the ground.
-- solidly on the ground yeah new episodes.
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